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15/12/2011 23:13:38
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jayne
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Help needed with my GARMIN EDGE 800 .I bought it in August and still cant use it to plan routes ,upload and navigate them .This is the reason i bought the damn thing .I have been on forums and had help from technically minded friends (who are not cyclists ) I just need a quick tutorial with someone who is confident IN USING ONE .I want to be able to plan a route ,transfer it onto my device ,press go and it will direct me .You will be rewarded with cake or alcohol.
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15/12/2011 23:31:33
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AndyA
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Jayne, brief but hopefully the below will help.
1. Whatever website/program you use to create the route, save it to your computer as a .gpx file (If you are offered the choice of a GPX Route or GPX Track, choose Track). I use www.ridewithgps.com and find it really good. There are several other options including Garmin's own Garmin Connect (http://connect.garmin.com) which is even simpler to use as you don't have to do any of the below, you can just click 'transfer to device' and it should be copied over correctly.
2. Copy the .gpx file from your PC to the \Garmin\NewFiles folder on your Edge
3. Disconnect your Garmin from your PC and power it up
4. The Course will have been created and should be showing if you go to Menu and then Courses. Click on the course and then click on the spanner icon towards the bottom left. Make sure that the 'directions' option is set to 'yes'. I find that usually when I have added a course to my Edge it is set to off.
5. Start course.
That's about all there is to it.
One quirk I've noticed is that if you're not actually at the start of the course when you click 'Go' then it doesn't navigate you to the start properly, it just draws a dead straight line to the start of the course. Once you're at the start though, it should pick up fine.
Happy to talk you through it next time we're out if you want.
Andy.
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16/12/2011 14:40:31
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peterreid
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Jayne, this may not be of much help but I completely sympathise. The instructions Andy gives are correct, the problem being the edge 800 is unpredictable. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, even when using the same method etc. so don't feel you are always to blame. I've used various mapping software programmes to greater or lesser effect. I've been using mine for a year now and really want to like it as I have a terrible sense of direction but it still frustrates me. An iphone it certainly isn't and the warranty issues (my first one died in the rain!, transmitter lasted 6 months) have been dealt with very poorly by Garmin. Pete
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16/12/2011 15:44:38
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Eugene
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Jayne, I've got a 705 and think the 800 works essentially the same way. Though could be wrong so take this with a pinch of salt!
I've struggled to get .GPX to work properly as its very memory intensive and occasionally locked up the unit which then had to be reset. It is also limited to a set number of waypoints which are used to deliver the directions. etc etc
There are 2 main file types - .GPX which uses routes (limited to a set number of waypoints) and .TCX which uses courses (which uses course points and these are essentially unlimited in number)
One thing that works really well is to use a site like Bikeroutetoaster which allows you to use .TCX format, but to navigate the COURSE as a ROUTE. Basically you still get all the directions, and the course mapped out with warnings if you deviate etc. You access the planned route via "course" in your training menu on the Garmin. I much prefer this way of using the route mapping.
Pete, not sure if you've tried this method?
edited by Eugene on 16/12/2011
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16/12/2011 16:54:32
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AndyA
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Eugene wrote:
There are 2 main file types - .GPX which uses routes (limited to a set number of waypoints) and .TCX which uses courses (which uses course points and these are essentially unlimited in number)
The Edge 800 is a bit different in that it uses a new .FIT format natively. When you put a .GPX or .TCX in the 'newfiles' folder it is converted to a .FIT file when you boot up the device next time so it doesn't actually matter which you use to do the import.
If you're having problems, it might be an idea to stick to using Garmin Connect to draw your course as there is a button that allows you to transfer the course directly to your device without having to manually copy files around. That will reduce the chance of errors...
Other than that stick with it. I've had mine for 12 months now and absolutely love it. I think it's a fantastic piece of kit that I would struggle to be without
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16/12/2011 17:02:05
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Eugene
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thanks for clarifying Andy. Might have to get me one of those 800's as they look top.....
Sorry Jayne for being no help at all 
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16/12/2011 19:24:29
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Dave Brett
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AndyA wrote:
I think it's a fantastic piece of kit that I would struggle to be without
However did people cope before the gps network. They probably got lost and landed up in London or something like that.
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16/12/2011 20:05:04
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AndyA
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Dave Brett wrote:
However did people cope before the gps network. They probably got lost and landed up in London or something like that.
I'm sure the same was said about pneumatic types and moving the pedals away from the front axle...
;-)
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16/12/2011 20:11:10
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Ian
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AndyA wrote:
Dave Brett wrote: However did people cope before the gps network. They probably got lost and landed up in London or something like that. I don't know dave, maybe they rode 55 miles down A-roads to a cafe and then returned using the same route in reverse edited by Ian on 16/12/2011
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17/12/2011 11:56:54
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jayne
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Thanks guys .Thats really useful information.I guess i just have to keep playing around with it and gain more experience .I feel a lot more hopeful now so thats good.I will keep you posted .
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17/12/2011 12:26:02
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Mr T
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How did people cope before trains, cars, boats, bikes?
I think because people had to cope without these things a long time ago we should all ditch these forms of transport and go buy a horse, just don't forget to clean up after it!
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17/12/2011 19:30:56
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peterreid
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Tried the direct upload from garmin connect with around a 60% success rate. The best method I've found so far is to actually rise a route and then save it as a course within the unit itself. Bikeroute toaster has a reasonable success rate. I found it only dropped out a couple of turns! (this is not acceptable I feel). Dave, don't be smugg, people with a good sense of direction and hence navigational skills are really lucky. I can live with most people on general intelligence but feel almost dyslexic when it come to directions, my head just freezes. Hence my frustration with the Garmin as to me it was the answer to my dreams. But its crap....or crap 50% of the time, or maybe when your 30miles from home it decides to be crap.......
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17/12/2011 19:47:40
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AndyA
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Try www.ridewithgps.com
I find it works fine all the time.
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17/12/2011 20:42:41
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ant
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Never had an issue with my 705 but then I use Garmins Mapsource which uses EXACTLY the same map as the unit. Problems seem to arise with gpx files from online routing sites.
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