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10/05/2011 09:50:18
Dave S
Dave S
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Name & Shame:
Black Toyota Yaris MW51 OLK turned from main road into side road cutting up me and my 6 year old son.
He had just asked the question if it was his right of way. Fortunately my instructions and his quick reactions meant he stopped and ditched his bike before hitting the front wong of the car, another ½ meter and the car would have hit him.
Driver did not stop. I chased them down and politely told them they were a f*ckwit.
The driver’s excuse: I’m sorry I’m a very nervous driver. FFS

Beware this car at all costs, It resides on Oakdale Drive in Heald Green – South Manchester
10/05/2011 15:56:11
Tonymufc
Tonymufc
Posts 723
Glad you're both ok mate, but I may have been tempted to use a more hands on approach. Smack!
10/05/2011 17:10:00
viv
viv
Posts 2690
I was shocked enough when someone knocked me off they didn't care if i was ok...but a six year old, that's ridiculous. Some people really don't care about anything or anyone do they
edited by viv on 10/05/2011
09/09/2011 08:53:12
rothers
rothers
Posts 1204
8:45 this morning at the junction of Cooper street and Princess Street heading Bloke riding a red and white compact De Rosa heading in a southernly direction towards the outskirts of the village wearing shorts armwarmers, yellow gillet and a MANCHESTER WHEELERS JERSEY.

If you are shamefull enough to sport a yellow gillet with a wheelers jersey and yellow helmet and yellow back pack ( cmon im not got wan but that is shameful ) at least try not to take a sly glance around before jumping a red light to avoid unclipping your pedals

Yours as always - your resident grump.
09/09/2011 10:06:04
viv
viv
Posts 2690
Im sure if you own up Jerry can give some track stand lessons so you can stay clipped in and not **** off drivers by jumping the red light.
09/09/2011 11:41:53
Jonathan
Jonathan
Posts 212
It's just not about ******* off drivers! or for that matter what 'kit' you are wearing!! - it's about obeying the laws of the road and staying safe! x
09/09/2011 12:04:56
Mr T
Mr T
Posts 1619
A young lad from Seamons CC told me how they were coming up some hill, I think he was with his dad, they were doing nothing wrong, but this Manchester Wheelers was apparently in the middle of the road and shouted idiot at them.
09/09/2011 12:16:09
Si
Si
Posts 1399
Were they wearing Sky kit ?

Big Grin
09/09/2011 12:26:34
Mr T
Mr T
Posts 1619
No, I don't think so :p

The wheeler was apparently small.
edited by Will Thompson on 09/09/2011
09/09/2011 13:09:42
Dave S
Dave S
Posts 499
Will Thompson wrote:
The wheeler was apparently small.


That rules me out then!

Now, where did I put that Ginsters . .. ..
09/09/2011 13:55:55
Tonymufc
Tonymufc
Posts 723
I take it that everyone on this forum is squeaky clean and never broken any road traffic laws? This s**t always amazes me. Most of us also drive. So how many of us actually stick to EXACTLY 30mph? How many of us have put our foot down when the lights change to amber? How many of us maybe park on double yellows? But its ok cos I'm only nipping in for a minute. Name and shame by all means, just make sure that if its you doing the naming and shaming that you yourself are beyond judgement! I spend my working life on the road and have done so for the past 12 years and I can honestly say that the standard of driving in this country is s***e! People seem to be in a constant rush to get somewhere and don't have the patience (usually only needs 30 seconds to wait then pass an obstruction) that's needed. Then throw into the mix cyclists that seem to think that we have some devine right to be on the road simply because its more enviromentally friendly.(I'm not saying that's why we ride bikes btw) The roads are now a battle ground a free for all for all users. I'm not perfect thats why I live in a glass house and I don't throw stones. End rant!!
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edited by Tonymufc on 09/09/2011
09/09/2011 14:33:39
NickW
NickW
Posts 1424
Well the point is Tony that if you f**k up on a bike you usually only do an injury to yourself (or your club mates!). If a driver f**ks up he can kill or seriously injure a rider.

I don't RLJ in a car and I dont RLJ on the bike.
I don't text whilst driving and use hands free to take the (very) occasional call.

That does give me the right to criticise drivers who do, particularly those who are driving cars which are fitted with blue tooth as standard and so have no excuse whatsoever to have a phone clamped to their ear. As I said on the other thread (BBC) the vast majority of car drivers are fine and the odd bad drivers give them a bad name with cyclists, just as the odd bad cyclist gives them a bad name with drivers. No-one owns the road, but with respect, if anyone, it's the motorists with their "you don't pay road tax" attitude bol**ks (even though it doesnt exist) that think they do, most dont even realise that commuting cyclists are trying to get to the front at lights because it's the safest place to be.

What you need is for a driver to punt you face first into the road and then have to lie on a spine board in the MRI for 4 hours whilst you find out if your back's broke and get yourself stitched by a plastic surgeon, then you'll probably appreciate there's a significant difference between the effects of riding a bike without due care and attention and driving a tonne of metal without due care and attention.

You may also want to consider that we lost a club member in a traffic accident a year or so ago. In addition, your racing club mates know 3 local riders that have been killed in incidents with cars/lorries in the last year, in all those cases the drivers no doubt walked away without so much as a scratch on them. We won't even talk about your other club mates who have ended up across the bonnets of cars but have been fortunate enough to walk away without long term injury.

So thanks all same but if I think a motorist is driving like a tw@t I'm going to tell them and I have no problems with their details being posted in a name and shame.
09/09/2011 15:12:13
Jonathan
Jonathan
Posts 212
Can't disagree with anything you've said Nick! it used to be said - not that long ago - that 'all car drivers should at least try riding a motorbike - so they would think 'bike'' - and having been a motorcycle rider I really know what that one means and feels like! It's an absolute tragedy when we lose anybody! I think this thead has gone a little off what it - i guess - it started as - but i can see why. I have mates I meet up with now and then who genuinally believe that cyclists are the 'pests of the road' - And yeah it seriously tests my patience and at times leads to very 'heated' arguements as I do my very best to re - dress the balance! As cyclists we just need to do our very best - as I'm very sure we do - to stay safe - and when we get the opportunity get the message over about all being considerate to each other other on the road! take good care dude! x
09/09/2011 15:16:36
Tonymufc
Tonymufc
Posts 723
Nick for your information I've had the misfortune to have been hit by cars on two occasions. I also drive for a living and have seen first hand exactly what the effects are when a driver f****s up. I've also been in a situation when a cyclist rode straight through a red light trying to cross two lanes of traffic causing the 32 tonne load I was carrying to slide sidewards after I had to brake that hard not to squash the stupid f****r. He was lucky that time, but his f**k up most definitely nearly caused a very bad accident. I could spend all day slating drivers and cyclists with the amount of bad motorist and cyclists that I encounter. The fact is Nick that both parties need educating about the other. We're fortunate that we ride and drive so probably the pair of us act accordingly whilst on the road using either methods of transport. And yes you're right 'Road Tax' was replaced by 'Vehicle Excise Duty' which is determined by vehicle emissions and axel weight and seen as we emit nothing and weight (almost) nothing, well there's nothing to pay. My rant wasn't to excuse bad drivers and I offer my condolences to anyone that has suffered a loss as a result of any RTA. I should also add that I'm not adverse to the odd confrontation when on the bike as I do like to highlight to some drivers that their driving is crap.
16/09/2011 16:26:46
Ben
Ben
Posts 732
Overwhelmingly, someone that only drives *does* need to ride a bike too, and see what's it's like. But it also makes sense the other way round. I resist the temptation to get angry with some drivers who do something daft (not dangerous) as I've been in similar situations myself in my car, although I tend to change my behaviour if there is a cyclist nearby - something that most car drivers don't seem to be able to do. I do get very angry (Bruce Lee dragon-fist style) when a car/van does something dangerous when I've got my son on the back of my bike. As this is a public forum, I won't repeat anything here that I've said or done to them !

I do also have a go at other cyclists. Anyone on a bike jumping a red light, or riding along the cycle lane on the wrong side of the road, blocking my path when I'm in a hurry usually ends up regretting it !

But it seems I am guilty of something though. I commuted in this morning wearing Wheelers shorts and a hi-vis yellow jacket - what's the problem with that dunno
24/01/2012 08:06:46
rothers
rothers
Posts 1204
Interestingly, I attempted to report a portly chap for driving his oversize BMW whilst making a call traveling south on Chester road. It was an opportunity I was not going to miss as there was a police car 100 yards down the way.

The pc was very pleasant and told me that there's nothing they can do unless THEY witness it.

This leaves me with the sad thoughts that my stress levels have been needlessly raised over the years remonstrating with culprits who were always going to get away with it.
24/01/2012 08:11:26
Ed
Ed
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