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26/07/2010 12:33:22
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Dave S
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Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of Kinteic-One K1 wheels? http://www.kinetic-one.co.uk/
They're an entry level deep section wheel (everything about me and my bikes is entry level so they're in keeping), right now I'm on 2010 Mavic Aksiums which cope with evertything I ask of them so not sure if K1 would be an upgrade or a side step?
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26/07/2010 13:15:59
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NickW
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Do you mean the 50mm carbon deep sections (£650) or the 31mm alloy ones they also call aero for about £165?
If you only want 30mm, I reckon the Planet-Xs at about £125 a pair for a 30mm section are better value http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/WPPXMODELB/planet-x-model-b-wheelset but they are plain unbadged - I have 'em on my commuter/training bike at the moment. Imho, neither are really a noticeable step up from the Aksiums though (EDIT: Actually, imho at best they are a side step). The P-Xs I have now replaced a 2008 set of Askiums when I wore the rim out on the front and broke a spoke on the rear within a week of each other. Until that point both had stayed true and the hubs ran well despite a regular pot holed commute into the city centre over 2 winters and around 8,000 to 10,000 miles without any servicing whatsoever. I just don't get the feeling the P-Xs will be as robust as the Askiums but that's purely subjective.
If its the 50mm ones you mean, then it depends what you riding you are planning to do on them - Eugene asked a similar question a few months back - check out the old threads and you should see some comments, but basically, it depends whether you want a set of fast race wheels (maybe a deep section wheel then) or just a lighter do it all racing/training set (in which case you may want to stick with an alu rim) and whether or not you want to go training / on club runs on expensive wheels!
Stu will be along in a minute to sell you the virtues of his handbuilts as well 
edited by NickW on 26/07/2010
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26/07/2010 13:46:22
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Dave S
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The Aksiums are more than I need for Club runs, they take the knocks of pot holes more than adequately.
I was thinking of a lighter pair with a deeper section for Time trialling but without breaking the bank.
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26/07/2010 13:59:36
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NickW
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A 30mm section wont be much quicker than the Askiums I wouldnt have thought, the 50mm ones maybe. I would have thought you'd get bigger gains from a skinsuit, clip on tri bars and aero lid to start with though.
Thought about waiting until the end of the season and picking up some second hand deep section wheels at a decent price for next season?
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26/07/2010 14:08:37
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Dave S
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Got some clip on bars and slowly but surely getting accustomed to the ride position.
Aero helmut is a good call.
A skin suit would make me the spitting image of the StayPuffed Marshmallow man - but on a bike - maybe when I drop another stone I'll brave that one!
End of season second hand units will more than fit the bill as I won't be in position to compete until next year anyway - when is end of season, September/October?
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26/07/2010 17:30:07
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Crazy Pete
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I've got a pair of the Model Bs, well, they were a pair until I kerbed the front one and reduced it to scrap! The rear is fine. I've heard that the freehubs aren't all that good, and I've found them to be not that stiff, so on high speed downhill sections the steering is a bit sketchy. Not really a step up from the aksiums.
+1 for nicks coments about the section size. 30mm isnt that much and you might be better to wait until the secondhand 50mm become available.
Cheers, P.
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26/07/2010 18:21:55
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Michael Buchanan
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I can throughly recommend Shimano Dura Ace 7850 cl carbon laminate wheels (clincher). They are not specifically aero, in the sense of a deep section carbon wheel, but are unfeasibly light (under 1300g the pair), durable (6000 miles commuting, climbing, club runs, sportives etc so far with no issues), stiff, and fast - they added around 3-5 mph on the flat and over that downhill when I upgraded last year from a set of Ksyriums. The hubs are the smoothest, and are works of art. I dont time trial but I'd be surprised if they didnt acquit themselves well. I bought mine for special events but in just over a year they've never been off and are totally bulletproof. The price seems to be less this year than last, now around 550 for the pair and less on special offer. If thats a push, then they do an Ultegra set (RS80?) which are significantly cheaper on the same bulletproof rims but you dont get the awesome titanium hubs, and they're a bit heavier. Best value wheels I've come across, bar none.
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27/07/2010 07:26:40
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R1Shaun
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3-5mph on the flat? Where's the motor hidden?
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